Anthropic's S-1 leaked and the numbers don't match the narrative. Revenue flatlining as token prices fall, SaaS investors posting memes welcoming them to the no-growth table.
@Jessicalessin still puts it at 60% they get out in November, which looks brave in a week when Oura pulled its own IPO and blamed market conditions.
@lessin's problem with the core business is simpler than any of that. Claude is the center of his infrastructure. "If I woke up tomorrow and Claude was gone, I would care for about one second."
Full house plus
@adrianaoun, who drops in to argue there's no moat left unless you own the infrastructure, the data, or the algorithms.
Also:
@brit's agent started coordinating date night with
@davemorin's agent, and she stopped texting her husband for a day.
Recorded live from the X boardroom. Watch here or wherever you get your pods.
Topics:
00:00 Trailer
01:04 Live from X HQ, and a 39 degree cold plunge
02:57 Dunbar's number, but for bots
05:48 Anthropic's leaked S-1 and the flatlining revenue
07:37 Oura pulls its IPO and the LPs get stuck
09:36 What's actually happening in the markets
10:41 Wall Street and Silicon Valley split on AI's price tag
12:45 World Labs sells for $8B: the barbell strategy
14:11 Half a trillion in contracts, and who's really making money
14:54 What happens if OpenAI and Anthropic don't work out?
16:11 Priced for a growth rate bigger than the US economy
18:04 Open models pass closed models on the charts
18:51 Sam: if Claude vanished tomorrow, I'd care for one second
19:43 The forward deployed bet and the luxury token problem
22:16 Adrian drops in: 300 startups, 40 unicorns, and a plane
24:39 Jess goes full Muse
26:28 The bot AGI challenge: after-school plans and the mom index
28:23 OpenAI rebrands Codex as Dots
30:30 Adrian on the moat: winner take some
31:38 Brit's agent starts talking to Dave's agent
33:51 No switching costs, so BD deals are the only lock-in
36:13 Dave: Instinct is the new Kayak
36:57 Maybe it's the beginning of times, not the end
38:47 Adrian's opposite thesis: we go further into the screens
43:39 Who has agency, you or the technology?
44:22 Offline is the new luxury
46:31 Everyone is building personal apps now
47:54 Book rec: Ari Emanuel's Roll the Calls
50:44 Adrian's parting shot: infrastructure, data, or algorithms
53:02 Sam's Middle Ages 2.0: castles, moats, and hoarding