I don't want to Bastiat post about "what is seen and what is not seen" all day, but the perceived precarity of upper middle class status and the subordination of its formal pathway to things ostensibly at odds with our stated principles surely feeds radicalization on the margins
In the case of college admissions, people often justify various preferences (euphemism: discriminations) based on what they do to the quality of the student body within the institution, or even more broadly to the quality of the upper middle class elite within the nation.
What is not seen, and not discussed, is how this process is perceived by the marginal candidates who do not receive such preferences and who consequently, at least in their own mind, fail to achieve the rank of Master.
Given a limited number of spots at the end of any given societal Honors path, there must always exist marginal candidates. Something must always choose between them.
Across all historical societies, we might perceive one factor in choosing between marginal candidates to be "societal harmony", regardless of any of the society's stated principles, because it's very hard to govern a people who feel excluded from the status they feel they deserve.
~50 years ago or so, boomers 3x'd college enrollment in a single generation. Unsurprisingly, this also came with a wave of changes to how marginal candidates were decided.
US college enrollment then peaked right after the '08 financial crisis -- and as the feeling of shrinking opportunity comes for those aspiring to climb the ranks, or even just maintain their own familial status, the willingness to look the other way as marginal candidates are decided on factors unfavorable to you starts to rankle.
So we had the Asian Americans vs. Harvard case and things changed a little.
Whether this was good or bad is currently being relitigated. And, to my point, also irrelevant. The mere fact of the perceived decline of opportunity makes everything more zero-sum, people less willing to look away, more willing to fight, and more willing to embrace disapproval from their social betters on the Jedi Council.
Every discussion about how the expression of one preference or another shapes a college's internal composition, and by extension the composition of our nation's elite, ought to be accompanied by a sister discussion about how such preferences also shape the composition of our nation's counter-elite and their propensity to action.
To the extent there's ever a free lunch here, surely it can only come about during times of great shared prosperity and the perception of a broad, rising tide.
AI may deliver on the former, we'll see. I'm a believer, on balance. But at present, the perception is that only a few boats will be elevated by its flood waters.
If our early adulthood elite training institutions, which provide a formal course of honors for youth to aspire to and unlock higher tiers of income and social status upon matriculation, adopt socialization as a primary goal, they should expect to see their own status fall.
I think this has happened to some degree and I expect it to accelerate over the next 30-40 years.
If you're willing to bite the bullet and say "totalizing meritocracy" and "infinite grind culture" and "turbo hagwon childhoods" and unamerican and incompatible with our culture, so be it. I think that's fair play. You can make strong arguments to that end.
But, having made that point, you have to replace it with something. Someone must decide the marginal admit. Someone must decide the exception.
Some people decided "race" was actually a pretty bad thing to use to decide the marginal case, but the institutions had already evolved to operate that way and so they're fighting it out still, malicious compliance and all.
> "because I don’t think it even produces academic and technological greatness of the sort we see in America."
However, if your barometer of what's acceptable or not is driven by a consequentialist framework of whatever produced American greatness, then I think the other reasons you gave for accepting sex as an acceptable decider of the marginal case start to fall away.
It's not clear to me that the "brightest young men" really object to skewed gender ratios (CalTech seems to attract a bunch of them even within the water of our current culture), but even if they did, a consequentialist view of what produced prior American greatness would have no trouble saying: the desire of 17 year old boys to party and talk to the opposite sex should have no bearing on national policy.
I'm not an absolutist. The ability to allow for exceptions to principles in times of need is critical for any society. The question is always just whether or not the exact need justifies the exception.
In this case...on the merits of your own points, it's hard to swallow:
- You say "it's fair game" to express a preference that is, to my knowledge, contra the Civil Rights Act. Piccolo player is not such a category.
- You say young men don't want to attend a sausage fest, but that's not the exactly trade on offer, since elite admissions spots are limited. The preferences being traded off are those of the top-most percentile men against the marginal-percentile men who would've otherwise been admitted, if not for sex-based selection.
- You say that social life & being socialized into your community matters, but I think this actually leans towards college radicalization and alienation from the broader country, as the college itself becomes a self-contained bubble wherein students can get everything they need without needing to engage with their broader community.
- It's not the case that American college men & women were unsocialized monks/nuns, unfamiliar with the foreign sex & unable to navigate social interactions before ~1970. I'm not suggesting anything is monocausal here, merely that the kids today are obviously not made bastions of well-behaved social conformity by their college experience now.
- From a consequentialist perspective regarding marriage, those who meet their spouse in college are obviously winning an incredible outcome, but that's obviously a small slice of total marriages and it's not clear that the forces that push young people to marry are helped, on net, by putting many of them together into the exact same institutions vs. a counterfactual world where some degree of separation was seen as normal.
- You say "work hard play hard" is an important part of the American frame (& an MIT motto), which is true. But violating sex-selection civil rights principles on the basis of a motto seems weak, and especially so for institutions that exist within a broader community that can provide ample opportunity for play.
Think I just wrote a longer reply than your own long-post, so no worries if you don't go through it all.
But I think violating principles we claim to hold dear should be treated with more gravity than we've been doing, as a society, for the past ~50 years.
If you don't want zoomers posting Anakin memes and radicalizing about the pathways that were closed off to them, you have to treat your society's principles -- and its Course of Honors towards Elite status for the aspirational young men & women of all backgrounds -- with some gravitas.
I'm NOT saying this is what you're saying here, but I can see why some zoomer can read your POV, alongside the defenses of other admissions practices that serve functionally to exclude them and reduce their own attainment upon our official social ladder, and see:
> "sorry anon, but you have to work at panda express because Chad wanted better parties and the professors wanted easier marriages"
or a femcel version at more female-skewed colleges:
> "sorry anon, but you have to work as an unpaid marketing intern at a declining publication because Stacy wanted better parties and the admin wanted more involved alumni"
I think we can do better.