Joe Rogan just got into it with Producer Jamie and veteran Bill Thompson about whether or not Elon Musk’s new $250,000 flying Tesla Roadster is fake and questions how a car that can leap over traffic could ever be street legal: ROGAN: “There's a lot of people that paid $250,000 for the Roadster in 2017. I know a guy who did that.” JAMIE: “Some people think the stuff about the Roadster online is not real.” ROGAN: “It's 100% real. My friend was there.” CONTEXT: On October 15, Tesla actually demonstrated a redesigned Roadster at a SpaceX facility in Texas. And this wasn't just another computer-generated concept. The prototype used SpaceX-developed compressed-gas thrusters to launch into the air, rotate, and land. It jumped over other vehicles. It even demonstrated driving UPSIDE DOWN using a suction system. Tesla says the vehicle can accelerate from 0–60 MPH in UNDER ONE SECOND. Those acceleration figures are company claims, not independent performance certification. And the aerial maneuvers were performed WITHOUT ANYBODY INSIDE THE CAR for safety reasons. But here's where things get interesting. Rogan immediately asks the question millions of people are probably wondering: HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY BE STREET-LEGAL? And Elon Musk doesn't exactly have a reassuring answer. At the unveiling, Musk acknowledged that he wasn't certain the Roadster would be legal in every jurisdiction. When asked about street legality, he responded: “Depends on your street.” And there's an important distinction Tesla's promotional spectacle makes easy to miss. The company is advertising THREE DIFFERENT ROADSTER VERSIONS: PERFORMANCE: which is a road-oriented version with a $50,000 reservation deposit. THRUST: A more extreme version with acceleration thrusters and a $250,000 reservation deposit. ROCKET: An invitation-only, single-seat version with a full flight system. And that last version? Tesla itself says the Rocket is NOT APPROVED FOR PUBLIC ROAD USE. In other words, the version capable of the most spectacular airborne stunts isn't currently something you can legally take onto a public street. And the $250,000 deposit for the Thrust version doesn't automatically buy you the full flying Rocket variant shown in the demonstration. But the biggest surprise might be what's happened to customers who started this journey in 2017. When Tesla originally unveiled the next-generation Roadster, it promised: 0–60 MPH in 1.9 seconds. Approximately 620 MILES of range. Production beginning in 2020. Tesla began accepting reservations immediately. Standard customers could put down $50,000. Buyers seeking the original Founders Series could pay the entire $250,000 upfront. That was NINE YEARS AGO. And the Roadster still hasn't reached production. Now Musk says production will begin in 2028. If that happens, it will be ELEVEN YEARS after customers first started reserving the car. But here's an overlooked detail. The new Roadster Tesla is showcasing is radically different from the vehicle those early customers originally reserved. The old design promised approximately 620 miles of range. The redesigned vehicle is now being advertised with a range of OVER 300 MILES. That's less than half the original headline range figure. It's become dramatically more extreme in its acceleration and aerial capabilities, while giving up much of the range originally promised. And the financial fine print is fascinating. Tesla's Roadster reservation agreement says: The final purchase price has not been established. A reservation does not constitute an actual vehicle purchase. IMPORTANT NOTES: Tesla cannot guarantee when the vehicle will be delivered. And the company does NOT hold reservation funds separately in escrow or pay interest on them. Reservations are refundable under the agreement's terms, but imagine the opportunity cost for someone who tied up $250,000 back in 2017. 9 years without receiving the car. 9 years with no interest.

New: Joe Rogan tells athletic coach Ross Edgley that he’d be SHOCKED if LeBron James isn’t using Peptides or Hormone Therapies to maintain his elite athleticism in the NBA at age 41: ROGAN: “He has to be on something. There are 0 studies that show any negative effects to taking BPC-157.” CONTEXT: LeBron James isn't merely playing basketball at an age when most NBA superstars have retired. In February 2026, he became the OLDEST PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY to record a triple-double. His numbers that night: 28 POINTS. 12 ASSISTS. 10 REBOUNDS. At 41 YEARS OLD. And he's famously invested enormous resources into maintaining his body. A February 2026 Los Angeles Times report described LeBron spending more than $1.5 MILLION annually on recovery and maintenance, including hyperbaric chambers, cryotherapy and compression equipment. That doesn't make him immune to aging. But it does help explain why his approach to recovery is so different from the average professional athlete's. Now here's where Rogan's speculation becomes especially controversial. He specifically brings up two experimental recovery peptides: BPC-157. TB-500. Both have attracted attention for potential tissue-repair and healing effects. And BOTH are explicitly listed as prohibited performance-enhancing substances in the NBA's collective bargaining agreement. So are testosterone and human growth hormone. This isn't simply a question of whether these substances are available outside professional sports. The NBA has specific rules against them. But there's another fascinating complication. Rogan suggests that no research has demonstrated negative effects from BPC-157. That sounds reassuring. Until you examine how little HUMAN research actually exists. A systematic review published on October 8, 2026 identified just THREE qualifying human studies involving a combined total of 30 participants. 30 PEOPLE. The studies reported no treatment-related adverse events, but researchers classified the overall evidence as VERY LOW CERTAINTY. They concluded that BPC-157 should not be used clinically outside properly regulated research trials. In other words: ABSENCE OF DOCUMENTED HARM IS NOT PROOF OF SAFETY. There simply haven't been enough high-quality human studies to establish its long-term safety or effectiveness. The FDA has also raised concerns involving immune reactions, impurities and insufficient human safety data. And the timing of this debate couldn't be more interesting. IMPORTANT NOTES: Just days ago, on October 15, 2026, Reuters reported that the FDA was considering a policy change that could make it easier for pharmacies to compound certain experimental peptides, including BPC-157. That doesn't mean the FDA has approved BPC-157 as safe or effective. And it wouldn't override the NBA's prohibition. But it highlights a much larger emerging debate: If experimental recovery drugs become more accessible to the general public, where should professional sports draw the line between MEDICAL RECOVERY and PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT? Because modern professional athletes have access to extraordinary resources for extending their careers. Advanced rehabilitation. Personalized training. Sleep optimization. Specialized nutrition. Experimental recovery research. But not every intervention is legal in competition, and not every promising treatment has been proven safe. And one distinction is absolutely essential: Rogan provides NO evidence that LeBron has used any prohibited substance. Exceptional longevity is not proof of doping. But LeBron's extraordinary career has become a fascinating case study in the limits of human athletic aging.

Joe Rogan gets into a serious debate with 2 time Oscar winner Michael Douglas about whether or not Americans should be allowed to own guns: DOUGLAS: “I can't find any reason for somebody to own an automatic military-style weapon.” ROGAN: “The worst outcome would be falling to protect your family because you didn’t own a gun.” DOUGLAS: “I’d rather get stabbed than shot.” ROGAN: “Really? You die either way.” CONTEXT: Fully automatic weapons and ordinary semiautomatic firearms are NOT the same thing. A fully automatic gun can fire multiple rounds with one continuous trigger activation. A semiautomatic firearm generally fires one round per trigger pull. And under federal law, civilian possession of newly manufactured machine guns has generally been prohibited since 1986, with limited exceptions for previously registered weapons. So when Douglas questions why civilians need automatic military-style weapons, he's challenging a category that's already subject to extraordinary legal restrictions. But Rogan's argument is about something different: Owning an ordinary firearm for personal protection. And this is where the numbers become interesting. A 2024 peer-reviewed study using the federal National Crime Victimization Survey estimated approximately 61,000–65,000 defensive firearm incidents annually across the periods studied between 1987 and 2021. Those are real reported incidents involving people using guns to defend themselves. Other private surveys have produced dramatically higher estimates, partly because they ask different questions about threats and defensive behavior. So armed self-defense is not simply a hypothetical concept. But there's another side to the equation. IMPORTANT NOTES: In 2022, researchers published a massive California study following approximately 17.6 MILLION adults. They found that people who began living with lawful handgun owners had more than DOUBLE the rate of homicide compared with people living in homes without handgun owners. Even more striking: Among homicides occurring at home, those living with handgun owners experienced approximately SEVEN TIMES the rate of being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner. These are observational associations, not proof that every gun-owning household faces those odds or that ownership alone caused the deaths. But they illustrate exactly the danger Douglas is worried about. And then there's one of the most heartbreaking details of Rogan's own life. His friend Phil Hartman, the legendary Saturday Night Live comedian, was murdered in May 1998. Not by a home intruder. Not by a stranger breaking through the door. He was shot to death while sleeping by his wife, Brynn, who later killed herself. Rogan brings up Hartman's murder during the conversation. Which makes the philosophical disagreement extraordinary. Douglas even recalls an incident involving his young son picking up a gun that had been left accessible in the house. Rogan immediately acknowledges the importance of keeping firearms secured. And the CDC agrees: locked storage can help prevent unauthorized access, particularly by children. But there's an unavoidable practical tension: A gun stored securely needs to remain inaccessible to unauthorized people. A gun intended for emergency defense also needs to be accessible quickly enough to use. Those two objectives require careful planning, and neither resolves every possible danger. That's what makes this conversation more than another celebrity argument about the Second Amendment. Rogan is weighing the consequences of being defenseless against a violent attacker. Douglas is weighing the consequences of introducing a potentially lethal weapon into an ordinary household. The difficult question is which risks a household is actually taking on and which dangers people are most prepared to prevent.

New: Joe Rogan is in a state of amazement when The Big Bang Theory creator Chuck Lorre reveals he fell into the Scientology cult for 10 years and exposes how they would charge people $50,000 to achieve a higher spiritual state: LORRE: “It’s all marketing. They’re always selling you on having the institutionally held secrets. You stick around because everyone wants to know the secrets of life.” ROGAN: “The added benefit they have is that they have all these successful celebrities.” CONTEXT: Chuck Lorre really did spend about a decade involved with Scientology. In a Los Angeles Times interview published today alongside his new memoir, Lorre called it “one of my darker secrets” and said he had been embarrassed by that decade of his life. He says he entered Scientology when he was a broke young musician looking for direction, continued taking courses after moving to Los Angeles and at one point even signed the Sea Organization’s infamous billion-year commitment. He lasted two days in the Sea Org. But Lorre’s broader point about secrets is not something the Church of Scientology itself denies. Scientology’s official website says that a small portion of its most advanced scriptures is deliberately kept confidential. The church says members must become sufficiently prepared “spiritually and ethically” before receiving them, and says premature exposure could interfere with spiritual development. Scientology even has a formal progression system for this. It is called the Bridge to Total Freedom. Members move through increasingly advanced levels, eventually reaching what Scientology calls Operating Thetan, or OT. The church says these levels must be taken in an established sequence and that putting somebody onto the OT levels before they are ready would be “fruitless.” So when Lorre says: “Oh, I want to know the secret. If I stick around, I’ll find out the secret.” he is describing a real structural feature of the religion: THE MOST ADVANCED INFORMATION IS AT THE END OF A PROGRESSION. And getting farther along that progression can require serious investments of both time and money. IMPORTANT NOTES: Religious-studies scholar Donald Westbrook, who conducted extensive fieldwork among Scientologists, describes advancement through the Bridge as something that usually costs money and always costs time. He also confirms that the OT materials are confidential. Historical reporting shows just how expensive that process could become. A major Los Angeles Times investigation found that auditing was sold in 12½-hour blocks that at the time ranged from roughly $3,000 to $11,000 depending on where it was purchased. Former Scientologists have separately described spending six figures over the course of years on auditing, courses and donations.

🚨NEW: Joe Rogan just had on a pissed off Independent researcher Dan Richards who says the accepted “28 YEARS” timeline for building the Great Pyramid is completely absurd: RICHARDS: “Go build a f**ing fire pit with cinder blocks and get back to me. You guys don’t own a f**ing tool belt.” ROGAN: “There were MILLIONS of stones. We’re definitely missing something.” CONTEXT: Here’s why the construction timeline sounds so absurd when you turn it into arithmetic. The Great Pyramid originally stood roughly 481 feet tall. Its base covers about 13 acres. And the standard estimate is approximately 2.3 million stone blocks. Now take Richards’ 28-year figure. 2.3 million blocks ÷ 28 years = roughly: 82,000 blocks per year. 225 blocks per day. About 9 blocks every hour, 24 hours a day. Or averaged across the entire construction period: ONE BLOCK ADDED ROUGHLY EVERY 6½ MINUTES. For 28 straight years. And if you use the traditional approximately 20-year estimate, the arithmetic gets even crazier: roughly one block every 4½ minutes. But there’s an absolutely crucial caveat. That does NOT mean Egyptians had one crew placing one finished block every five minutes like an assembly line. Thousands of people could quarry, shape, transport and place blocks simultaneously. And archaeology has uncovered evidence for exactly that kind of enormous organized workforce. Harvard’s Digital Giza project says excavations of the builders’ town and tombs indicate a workforce probably on the order of 20,000–30,000 native Egyptians, including skilled craftsmen and large numbers of manual laborers. That changes the fire-pit comparison considerably. Richards is comparing one guy building something in his backyard with an Egyptian state mobilizing tens of thousands of people around one national megaproject. And there was another huge advantage: most of the pyramid wasn’t being dragged hundreds of miles. Archaeologists have identified a massive quarry immediately south of the Great Pyramid that appears to have supplied much of its limestone core. AERA says its quarry channels preserve evidence of workers extracting pyramid-sized blocks in roughly the one-to-two-ton range. But some of the most important stone really did travel enormous distances. The brilliant white limestone used for the outer casing came largely from Tura across the Nile. Granite used inside Khufu’s complex came from Aswan which was roughly 933 kilometers south of Giza. And this is where one of the coolest discoveries in all of pyramid archaeology enters the story. We actually have paperwork from somebody involved. IMPORTANT NOTES: In 2013, archaeologists uncovered the Wadi el-Jarf papyri. Among them was the diary of an Egyptian official named Merer. Merer commanded a crew of roughly 200 men and recorded trips carrying fine limestone from Tura toward Khufu’s pyramid complex. He literally logged his work in half-day increments. That diary dates to very late in Khufu’s reign around Year 26 or 27 when the pyramid appears to have been approaching completion. So Richards’ “28 years” isn’t simply some random number archaeologists invented. There is contemporary Egyptian evidence showing crews transporting casing stone to Khufu’s pyramid near the end of roughly that span of his reign. But there’s another important correction: “28 years” is not a universally established stopwatch measurement for the pyramid’s construction. Modern estimates vary, often clustering around roughly two decades to the high 20s, partly because we do not possess a document saying: “Construction began on this exact date and finished on this exact date.” So archaeologists have evidence for WHEN it was being constructed. They have evidence for WHO was organizing parts of it. They know where much of the stone came from. They have quarry traces. They have a massive workers’ settlement. They do NOT have a surviving ancient construction manual explaining every engineering step.

New: Joe Rogan might have a new best friend after Grammy Award-winning rapper LL Cool J says he’s 100% convinced that ancient civilizations are buried beneath Antarctica and the Earth’s permafrost: LL COOL J: “I’m going to tell you where everything is at Joe. The permafrost.” ROGAN: “You think there’s ancient civilizations there?” LL COOL J: “100%.” CONTEXT: The wild part is that LL’s basic premise contains a kernel of truth: Cold environments are extraordinary time capsules. Frozen ground can preserve things that would normally decay, disappear or be destroyed. In northeastern Siberia, genetic evidence shows humans were living in the region more than 40,000 years ago, including an ancient population researchers call the Ancient North Siberians. In Greenland, scientists recovered enough DNA from roughly 4,000-year-old human hair preserved in permafrost to reconstruct the genome of a man from the island’s earliest known culture. That would have been almost unimaginable before ancient-DNA technology existed. And underneath Antarctica, researchers have found something even stranger: entire ancient landscapes. Radar mapping beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet revealed a vast network of valleys and ridges carved by rivers before the modern ice sheet covered the region. The preserved landscape is thought to be at least 14 million years old and potentially more than 30 million years old. It has essentially been sitting beneath the ice like geological deep-freeze. But there’s a massive chronological problem for the lost-civilization theory: That Antarctic landscape is millions of years older than Homo sapiens. There is currently no accepted archaeological evidence of an ancient human civilization beneath Antarctica. And the famous Antarctic formation Rogan pulls up that looks uncannily like a pyramid? Geologists have examined that one too. It’s an unnamed peak in the Ellsworth Mountains, roughly 4,150 feet tall. Its remarkably symmetrical faces can be explained by ordinary erosion acting on relatively uniform rock. In other words: it really does look like a pyramid. But there’s no evidence humans built it. That distinction is important because frozen environments have already delivered discoveries that would have sounded outrageous a few decades ago. Ancient genomes. Previously unknown human populations. Entire buried landscapes. IMPORTANT NOTES: Denisova Cave in Siberia even preserved evidence showing that Denisovans and Neanderthals inhabited the region across enormous stretches of prehistory even with occupation at the cave extending back hundreds of thousands of years.