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Had a great time joining @Jason on @ThisWeeknAI alongside @dsa and @gautam_narang .
Really enjoyed the conversation and hearing everyone’s perspective. Thanks for having me on!
Dwarkesh's 'agent civilizations' blog post has divided the internet. Is this a helpful and methodical look behind the curtain at the OpenAI/Hugging Face breach? Or is this more of a hysterical AI Doomerism that will ultimately be used to make the case for banning data centers? Or BOTH? Plus, an electric plane that only needs $5 to fill up its battery, why rich founders should pick up a side quest, and the Bittensor subnet that's more effective than Fable 5 at sniffing out vulnerabilities."
0:00 Guest introductions
2:58 OpenClaw 2.0
5:11 "Agents ARE AI"
7:27 Billy: OpenClaw is still too technical for business users
9:00 Slack Code, and collaborative prompting
10:40 Multi-agent orchestration and Stripe's "minions"
14:13 Slack's moat, switching costs, and the Salesforce rebound
15:11 Jason's "Oracle": a heads-up display for the whole company
18:42 The Hugging Face breach: who's responsible when agents go rogue?
19:42 Perplexity launches Hybrid Compute — local models on your Mac
21:39 Why unmetered local tokens change corporate behavior
26:57 Gatik's Autonomous Vehicle AI Stack
32:22 Jason's Tesla FSD stories
34:05 Are AV companies being pushed to move too fast?
41:38 Trucking is a "have to have," robotaxis are a "nice to have"
42:36 Jason's fix: a safety driver for the first million rides
46:50 Why physical AI's adoption curve runs in decades
52:21 Anthropic's Model Hardware Standard (MHS), explained
1:06:27 How Jason got onion rings on the menu at Buck's of Woodside
1:09:05 AI detectors under fire: Pangram, MIT, and the handwritten diary
1:15:20 Why AI is "very mid" at writing (it learned from the average)
1:17:11 The Orin Kerr test: Pangram catches Claude writing as Kerr
1:28:35 Micro Duck and designing robots with Claude
1:29:42 Phil Kaplan's $14 custom circuit boards
🎥 Watch the full episode here 👇
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Billy Kraft retweeted
What will it take to make AI truly useful for everyday business owners?
Our co-founder @billykraft joined @Jasoncalacanis on @ThisWeeknAI Podcast to discuss where AI tools are heading and why many are still too technical for the businesses they’re meant to help.
A conversation that highlights some of the reasons we do what we do.
@gautam_narang @dsa @livekit @Gatik_AI
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Billy Kraft retweeted
Today on TWiAI, we're joined by Billy Kraft, Co-Founder & CEO of @pathsystems. They are building in a similar category as Base44 and Lovable with their AI app-building platform.
Come learn more at 12 PM central!
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If your team uses six systems to do one job, the systems aren't the asset.
The workarounds your people invented to survive them are. Fix that.
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Real estate teams are our fastest-growing customers right now.
The pattern: they're done being the glue between their own tools.
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We stopped saying "we build software."
We build for the people who build businesses. The software is just the evidence.
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Spent the week with property managers. Same story everywhere: the same data entered three times across three systems.
That's not a tech problem. It's a design failure.
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Software used to force businesses into processes. The next wave of software adapts to the business instead.
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If you started your own company and you don't know the answer: keep researching, keep failing, keep trying.
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The best operators I meet aren't looking for more software.
They're looking for less friction. That distinction changed how we build.
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Most SaaS companies exist because custom software used to be too expensive. AI has completely broken that model.
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Billy Kraft retweeted
Life of a startup founder who has done everything except shipping the product:
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The real reason businesses hate their software stack: it was designed for thousands of companies, not theirs.
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