Anthropic calls some AI distillation illicit. But is distillation illegal?
This
@LawofCodeFM podcast is a deep dive into how courts might rule, with
@dbarabander,
@sabina_beleuz and
@PossibltyResult, who co-authored one of the sharpest papers on the topic.
We cover X v. Bright Data, what frontier labs' terms say about outputs, why Anthropic's own fair use arguments could be turned against it and predictions for the future.
Timestamps:
0:00 What is distillation?
1:52 Intro
3:01 Why distillation matters
5:44 X v. Bright Data
@dbarabander
7:50 Access vs. selling
10:40 Copyright preemption
11:25 Why X doesn't own your posts
13:49 From scraping to distillation
16:12 Who owns AI outputs?
19:38 Is all distillation illicit?
24:10 Anthropic's fair use problem
@sabina_beleuz
25:05 Bartz v. Anthropic
26:42 Predictions
@sabina_beleuz
28:41 Distilling the distillers
29:21 Selling services, not tokens
@PossibltyResult
32:34 Antitrust
37:06 Tech moves exponentially, law sublinearly
@PossibltyResult
40:47 Humans, AI and personhood
45:15 Final thoughts
Thank you to the presenting sponsor of this episode,
@altitude.
Nothing in this podcast is legal or investment advice.