Learn more about Gemini 4 Argon from the people who built it:
A conversation with Sergey Brin, @joshwoodward, @tulseedoshi, and @melvinjohnsonp about Gemini 4 Argon, how we got here, and the path ahead!

Oct 14, 2026 · 10:49 PM UTC

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why isn’t it available in antigravity?
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Honestly, you can keep all your Gemini 4 Argon secrets.
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Such a disappointing release for coders and those who bought Pro for the Pro model. Totally not even a competitive release to other companies / providers, and so tone deaf in how Google employees are responding (saying use $10 credit) 🤦‍♂️
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@GeminiApp I know others have flagged this...if we have Pro via a discount / offer (mine is from @lennysan's product pass), we can't actually use Argon in Antigravity. I will actually pay for a monthly sub to use it / try it but I am now unable to do that because of the offer blocking me as unpaid sub. And no way to change that. I'm getting by using it from opencode go but would prefer to test Argon as an orchestrator running opus 5.5 workers
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Dhur baba! Just make it normally available to all in @GoogleAIStudio already?
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please, please put it on the pro tier in the IDE.
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Love it so far I had it run an audit of projects and it found vulnerabilities and improved code.
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Down for the people who built it doing the talking, way more signal than the usual laminated press release.
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hearing it from the people who built argon is the best thread to bookmark tonight 🔖
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I don't get it... I can use Argon via OpenCode and Github Copilot but not in Antigravity??? Makes no sense 🙄
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A builder thread is nice, but the replies are all asking the same thing: which tier actually gets Argon.
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The generation occasionally gets interrupted by network issues. I suggest adding a mode similar to DeepThink, where the request is submitted once and the full output is displayed only after generation is complete.
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Hey is there any chance we can get more usage in antigravity? I’m ultra plan user and basically the weekly limits is just same as 4x 5h limits
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We pro users need argon on antigravity
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Fusion, quantum, protein design. Can it figure out why my sprinklers come on when it rains?
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Congrats to the Team.💝
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argon let the humans do the demo
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we want a Gemini 3.9 flash at the Level of Claude Opus 5.5 (Coding & Design) . that's All we want
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from the people who built it
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The TTFT stability on 200k+ token contexts is what really stood out during early testing. Curious to see how much of that speedup came from the KV cache optimizations discussed in the breakdown.
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又贵又垃圾,太让人失望了
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Can someone summarize 😅
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Hey has anyone every given your team an honest review of what using Gemini feels like ? 😭
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Gemini 4 Argon is a seriously bad model, even though it looks good on paper. In reality, it makes extreme errors that I constantly have to fix using Claude. So, thanks, but no thanks. I’m sticking with Opus.
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你先把cli放出来再说
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