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Clement Leung makes food videos as insta.noodls. He is an investigator and storyteller whose focus is uncovering dishes and cuisines worth trying.
We started by cooking Shin Ramyun on the table, and he showed us his hack: crack two eggs into the leftover broth and microwave it. Clement walked us through how he started documenting food and why.
Then we talked about Toronto, which Clement thinks might be the best food city in the world because it's the most diverse. We got into the economics of running a restaurant, how competitive it is to start one, and the food court stalls of Markham. Clement also reflected on the journey of documenting food, shared the stories he's picked up from getting closer with restaurant owners through his work, and told us what helping Mark Wiens taught him about what makes something legendary.
The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Becoming the Ramen Guy
00:04:25 Cooking Shin Ramyun
00:23:30 Gong Zai Mein and Curry Cubes
00:31:28 Stitching Through the Noodle Era
00:42:16 Best Food City in the World
00:56:29 A Map Drawn by Immigration
01:10:00 The Plaza Is a Tournament
01:22:24 No Ratings, No Free Meals
01:30:40 One More Year, Then Mary Brown's
01:45:37 Bifana, Shawarma, and Knafeh
01:57:22 Mark Wiens
02:16:59 Mark's Legendary Toronto Crawl
02:38:09 China, Ten Years Ahead
02:47:46 Eating Through China
03:01:30 Respect the Dish
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The Other Stuff EP 38 — Udara Jay nitter.siddz.com/i/broadcasts/1jGXgBlAP…
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The Other Stuff retweeted
This was a fun one.
I used a different approach here where I revealed the outline of the episode, as I saw it, on index cards for Clement to read ahead of the conversation. I've never done this before in an interview.
Had a cool effect where it felt like both of us were sync'd in some way through a kind of body of exploration, it created a sandbox we could return to together while exploring different tangents.
Will see if I try that approach again.
Clement Leung makes food videos as insta.noodls. He is an investigator and storyteller whose focus is uncovering dishes and cuisines worth trying.
We started by cooking Shin Ramyun on the table, and he showed us his hack: crack two eggs into the leftover broth and microwave it. Clement walked us through how he started documenting food and why.
Then we talked about Toronto, which Clement thinks might be the best food city in the world because it's the most diverse. We got into the economics of running a restaurant, how competitive it is to start one, and the food court stalls of Markham. Clement also reflected on the journey of documenting food, shared the stories he's picked up from getting closer with restaurant owners through his work, and told us what helping Mark Wiens taught him about what makes something legendary.
The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Becoming the Ramen Guy
00:04:25 Cooking Shin Ramyun
00:23:30 Gong Zai Mein and Curry Cubes
00:31:28 Stitching Through the Noodle Era
00:42:16 Best Food City in the World
00:56:29 A Map Drawn by Immigration
01:10:00 The Plaza Is a Tournament
01:22:24 No Ratings, No Free Meals
01:30:40 One More Year, Then Mary Brown's
01:45:37 Bifana, Shawarma, and Knafeh
01:57:22 Mark Wiens
02:16:59 Mark's Legendary Toronto Crawl
02:38:09 China, Ten Years Ahead
02:47:46 Eating Through China
03:01:30 Respect the Dish
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Clement Leung makes food videos as insta.noodls. He is an investigator and storyteller whose focus is uncovering dishes and cuisines worth trying.
We started by cooking Shin Ramyun on the table, and he showed us his hack: crack two eggs into the leftover broth and microwave it. Clement walked us through how he started documenting food and why.
Then we talked about Toronto, which Clement thinks might be the best food city in the world because it's the most diverse. We got into the economics of running a restaurant, how competitive it is to start one, and the food court stalls of Markham. Clement also reflected on the journey of documenting food, shared the stories he's picked up from getting closer with restaurant owners through his work, and told us what helping Mark Wiens taught him about what makes something legendary.
The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Becoming the Ramen Guy
00:04:25 Cooking Shin Ramyun
00:23:30 Gong Zai Mein and Curry Cubes
00:31:28 Stitching Through the Noodle Era
00:42:16 Best Food City in the World
00:56:29 A Map Drawn by Immigration
01:10:00 The Plaza Is a Tournament
01:22:24 No Ratings, No Free Meals
01:30:40 One More Year, Then Mary Brown's
01:45:37 Bifana, Shawarma, and Knafeh
01:57:22 Mark Wiens
02:16:59 Mark's Legendary Toronto Crawl
02:38:09 China, Ten Years Ahead
02:47:46 Eating Through China
03:01:30 Respect the Dish
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Gabriel O'Flaherty-Chan (@_GABRIELOC ) and Ahmed (@saleh_digital) of Falcon discussing how the next genre of games will be native to AI.
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Daniel Debow (@ddebow) on making the thing only you would dare to make, and giving it to the world.
Daniel Debow (@ddebow), an entrepreneur and musician, shows his new instrument in public for the first time in this episode. It’s a campfire instrument designed so that anyone can learn to play songs in under an hour. His argument is that most people who try to learn music don’t quit because they lack talent. They quit because instruments like the guitar and piano make beginners practice for a long time before they can play a single song. He explains how his team built an alternative. Four finger shapes cover most pop songs, magnets vibrate a piece of tonewood instead of a speaker, and a metronome pulses on your lap so you can feel the beat.
The second half is about Canada. @internetvin says he has felt out of place in Canada since he was a kid, and that he measures progress against Shenzhen, which went from a fishing village to one of the most advanced cities in the world in about 50 years. He argues that the current changes, like trading with more countries than the US, are basic systems design and not enough. Daniel says Canadians who feel this way can leave, as many have, complain, or build something, and he makes the case for building. Along the way they talk about how Geary Avenue in Toronto grew into a music scene out of cheap rent and a zoning loophole, how Daniel started Build Canada by publishing dozens of policy papers the way you’d publish content online, and how the Overton window shifts.
The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Creating a New Musical Instrument
00:09:59 Four Shapes, Any Song
00:23:52 Whales, Lutes, and Leo Fender
00:33:16 Making Wood Sing with Magnets
00:41:26 Geary Avenue
00:54:22 Out of Place in Canada
01:02:18 The Ceiling You Can Feel
01:07:01 Build Canada
01:25:54 The Overton Window
01:33:54 How the Super Deduction Works
01:41:00 Shenzhen vs Toronto
01:56:05 Say the Thing
01:58:04 A Country of Adventurers
02:03:56 Let the Weirdos Be Weird
02:12:08 Canada Is a Project
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The Other Stuff retweeted
reflecting on this conversation with @ddebow:
I'd say the core claim or thesis of the conversation is that human capability is often more abundant than observed behaviour makes it appear. Whether that capability becomes action depends heavily on the environment around it: the friction people face, whether they experience early efficacy, whether the activity feels culturally legitimate, who they are surrounded by, what behaviour they see modelled, and what the system permits.
If you change those conditions then previously latent behaviour can emerge. Once enough people act, their behaviour begins changing the environment for everyone else.
I think this conversation captures that well but where it could be developed further is through a deeper investigation into causalities, what I mean is, it might be useful for me to more deeply study the conditions under which different behaviour emerges and why.
Canada is a complex adaptive system containing many local environments producing all kinds of different behaviours. Canadian culture is not a single immutable thing. I have a strong intuitive model of the cause and effect relationship of talent development in the Greater Toronto Area, and I'd bet similar patterns probably extend out to other areas.
I use the Plaza as my metaphor to express what I'm feeling or noticing because that's where I experience the energy of those cause and effect relationships the most clearly, but it's probably worth putting all of these observations into some kind of project.
Perhaps the next core inquiry is:
What conditions cause a local environment to turn latent human capability into sustained, self-reinforcing action? why?
Daniel Debow (@ddebow), an entrepreneur and musician, shows his new instrument in public for the first time in this episode. It’s a campfire instrument designed so that anyone can learn to play songs in under an hour. His argument is that most people who try to learn music don’t quit because they lack talent. They quit because instruments like the guitar and piano make beginners practice for a long time before they can play a single song. He explains how his team built an alternative. Four finger shapes cover most pop songs, magnets vibrate a piece of tonewood instead of a speaker, and a metronome pulses on your lap so you can feel the beat.
The second half is about Canada. @internetvin says he has felt out of place in Canada since he was a kid, and that he measures progress against Shenzhen, which went from a fishing village to one of the most advanced cities in the world in about 50 years. He argues that the current changes, like trading with more countries than the US, are basic systems design and not enough. Daniel says Canadians who feel this way can leave, as many have, complain, or build something, and he makes the case for building. Along the way they talk about how Geary Avenue in Toronto grew into a music scene out of cheap rent and a zoning loophole, how Daniel started Build Canada by publishing dozens of policy papers the way you’d publish content online, and how the Overton window shifts.
The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Creating a New Musical Instrument
00:09:59 Four Shapes, Any Song
00:23:52 Whales, Lutes, and Leo Fender
00:33:16 Making Wood Sing with Magnets
00:41:26 Geary Avenue
00:54:22 Out of Place in Canada
01:02:18 The Ceiling You Can Feel
01:07:01 Build Canada
01:25:54 The Overton Window
01:33:54 How the Super Deduction Works
01:41:00 Shenzhen vs Toronto
01:56:05 Say the Thing
01:58:04 A Country of Adventurers
02:03:56 Let the Weirdos Be Weird
02:12:08 Canada Is a Project
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Daniel Debow (@ddebow) and internetVin (@internetvin) riff on the options you have as a frustrated Canadian.
Daniel Debow (@ddebow), an entrepreneur and musician, shows his new instrument in public for the first time in this episode. It’s a campfire instrument designed so that anyone can learn to play songs in under an hour. His argument is that most people who try to learn music don’t quit because they lack talent. They quit because instruments like the guitar and piano make beginners practice for a long time before they can play a single song. He explains how his team built an alternative. Four finger shapes cover most pop songs, magnets vibrate a piece of tonewood instead of a speaker, and a metronome pulses on your lap so you can feel the beat.
The second half is about Canada. @internetvin says he has felt out of place in Canada since he was a kid, and that he measures progress against Shenzhen, which went from a fishing village to one of the most advanced cities in the world in about 50 years. He argues that the current changes, like trading with more countries than the US, are basic systems design and not enough. Daniel says Canadians who feel this way can leave, as many have, complain, or build something, and he makes the case for building. Along the way they talk about how Geary Avenue in Toronto grew into a music scene out of cheap rent and a zoning loophole, how Daniel started Build Canada by publishing dozens of policy papers the way you’d publish content online, and how the Overton window shifts.
The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Creating a New Musical Instrument
00:09:59 Four Shapes, Any Song
00:23:52 Whales, Lutes, and Leo Fender
00:33:16 Making Wood Sing with Magnets
00:41:26 Geary Avenue
00:54:22 Out of Place in Canada
01:02:18 The Ceiling You Can Feel
01:07:01 Build Canada
01:25:54 The Overton Window
01:33:54 How the Super Deduction Works
01:41:00 Shenzhen vs Toronto
01:56:05 Say the Thing
01:58:04 A Country of Adventurers
02:03:56 Let the Weirdos Be Weird
02:12:08 Canada Is a Project
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Daniel Debow (@ddebow) says that we need to reverse our culture when it comes to weirdos.
Daniel Debow (@ddebow), an entrepreneur and musician, shows his new instrument in public for the first time in this episode. It’s a campfire instrument designed so that anyone can learn to play songs in under an hour. His argument is that most people who try to learn music don’t quit because they lack talent. They quit because instruments like the guitar and piano make beginners practice for a long time before they can play a single song. He explains how his team built an alternative. Four finger shapes cover most pop songs, magnets vibrate a piece of tonewood instead of a speaker, and a metronome pulses on your lap so you can feel the beat.
The second half is about Canada. @internetvin says he has felt out of place in Canada since he was a kid, and that he measures progress against Shenzhen, which went from a fishing village to one of the most advanced cities in the world in about 50 years. He argues that the current changes, like trading with more countries than the US, are basic systems design and not enough. Daniel says Canadians who feel this way can leave, as many have, complain, or build something, and he makes the case for building. Along the way they talk about how Geary Avenue in Toronto grew into a music scene out of cheap rent and a zoning loophole, how Daniel started Build Canada by publishing dozens of policy papers the way you’d publish content online, and how the Overton window shifts.
The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Creating a New Musical Instrument
00:09:59 Four Shapes, Any Song
00:23:52 Whales, Lutes, and Leo Fender
00:33:16 Making Wood Sing with Magnets
00:41:26 Geary Avenue
00:54:22 Out of Place in Canada
01:02:18 The Ceiling You Can Feel
01:07:01 Build Canada
01:25:54 The Overton Window
01:33:54 How the Super Deduction Works
01:41:00 Shenzhen vs Toronto
01:56:05 Say the Thing
01:58:04 A Country of Adventurers
02:03:56 Let the Weirdos Be Weird
02:12:08 Canada Is a Project
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internetVin (@internetvin) voices his frustrations with Canada and its systems design and asks one simple question.
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Daniel Debow (@ddebow) reminds us that Canada’s history is of boldness, greatness, and some crazy mofos.
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Daniel Debow (@ddebow) shows the @OtherStuffShow team how to play his new musical instrument.
Daniel Debow (@ddebow) demos his new musical instrument in public for the first time.
It has no speaker. Magnets vibrate a piece of wood to produce sound.
Instead of making the user think in chords, the instrument makes the user think in finger shapes.
He built it for people who believed they weren’t capable of being musical.
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Daniel Debow (@ddebow) demos his new musical instrument in public for the first time.
It has no speaker. Magnets vibrate a piece of wood to produce sound.
Instead of making the user think in chords, the instrument makes the user think in finger shapes.
He built it for people who believed they weren’t capable of being musical.
Daniel Debow (@ddebow), an entrepreneur and musician, shows his new instrument in public for the first time in this episode. It’s a campfire instrument designed so that anyone can learn to play songs in under an hour. His argument is that most people who try to learn music don’t quit because they lack talent. They quit because instruments like the guitar and piano make beginners practice for a long time before they can play a single song. He explains how his team built an alternative. Four finger shapes cover most pop songs, magnets vibrate a piece of tonewood instead of a speaker, and a metronome pulses on your lap so you can feel the beat.
The second half is about Canada. @internetvin says he has felt out of place in Canada since he was a kid, and that he measures progress against Shenzhen, which went from a fishing village to one of the most advanced cities in the world in about 50 years. He argues that the current changes, like trading with more countries than the US, are basic systems design and not enough. Daniel says Canadians who feel this way can leave, as many have, complain, or build something, and he makes the case for building. Along the way they talk about how Geary Avenue in Toronto grew into a music scene out of cheap rent and a zoning loophole, how Daniel started Build Canada by publishing dozens of policy papers the way you’d publish content online, and how the Overton window shifts.
The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
Timestamps
00:00:00 Creating a New Musical Instrument
00:09:59 Four Shapes, Any Song
00:23:52 Whales, Lutes, and Leo Fender
00:33:16 Making Wood Sing with Magnets
00:41:26 Geary Avenue
00:54:22 Out of Place in Canada
01:02:18 The Ceiling You Can Feel
01:07:01 Build Canada
01:25:54 The Overton Window
01:33:54 How the Super Deduction Works
01:41:00 Shenzhen vs Toronto
01:56:05 Say the Thing
01:58:04 A Country of Adventurers
02:03:56 Let the Weirdos Be Weird
02:12:08 Canada Is a Project
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