it’s absurd how they have carried on talking about ukraine as if the aid packages never stopped into the trump presidency and it is absolutely ridiculous now that the us is actively taking measures to weaken ukraine’s defenses
Cenk: My view of the war guys is that while it made sense in the beginning to help the Ukrainians… this war is over, the Ukraine has lost, and so you can say ‘oh no, that hurts my feelings, I don’t want Ukraine to lose’—I agree, I don’t want Ukraine to lose, it drives me crazy that Russia may be able to keep some of their ill-gotten gains from their invasion. And, and so at the same time I’ve seen what happened to the Palestinians, so once you’re on the losing end of that leverage it never gets better… your situation deteriorates, and gets worse and worse and worse, you lose more and more land, more and more territory, more and more power, and then you have to make a worse deal, right? So as painful as it is, uh, you sometimes have to take the best option out of very bad options. So if I’m advising the Ukrainians, let alone American… on the issue of financing the war forever apparently, right? I would tell the Ukrainians get to the negotiating table, make as good a deal as you possibly can, and then look to rebuild your own country and eventually these borders will be meaningless at some point anyway… so… stop losing these lives, you have a country… and, and please maintain of it as much of it as you can today because the Russians have so many more people, let alone weapons, let alone resources. Ukraine’s not gonna be able to win this war no matter how much we finance it. Yes, part of the mission of the Americans was to bleed the Russians dry, but now we’re bleeding ourselves dry.
Ana: 100%.
Cenk: So let’s end the war, get the peace, and save lives on both sides.