Dialectic 61: Josh Miller!
@joshm has always been thoughtful about the spaces we spend time in.
The browser is "really a rectangle that we spend eight hours a day in." So "why would we not want to live in a good rectangle?"
Josh sat down with me to reflect on
@browsercompany's journey about a year after it was acquired by
@Atlassian.
We talked about everything from the original decision to "optimize for feelings" to hiring unlikely stars to where Dia and the browser stand in the AI era.
Above all else, Josh believes in people. I’ve felt that, as have so many others who’ve collaborated with him or simply been around him.
I hope you’re inspired to believe in people too, and to leave your fingerprints on the things you make.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Opening Highlights
(1:19) - Intro: Josh Miller
(3:14) - Start: Not Commercial Enough & Optimizing for Feelings
(10:33) - Sociology, the Obama White House, Thrive, and the 5% Favicon
(16:57) - Bowling Alone, James Turrell, and Roden Crater
(23:31) - Betting on People, Leaving Thrive, and Where Computing Goes
(36:13) - "Assume You Don't Know" and What Was Sacred at The Browser Company
(43:17) - Intuition, Road Trips, and Leaving Fingerprints on Things
(55:16) - Building in Public, Pulling Back, and the Road to Atlassian
(1:04:42) - The Internet Computer in the AI Era: Codex, Cloud Browsers, and Why Everything Is Converging
(1:14:49) - How Dia Wins
(1:18:26) - Agents, Muse, and the Red Giraffe
(1:24:02) - Software Is Becoming Art
(1:33:32) - Believing in People, Leaving Facebook for the White House, and What's Next
(1:48:36) - Closing Questions
@dialecticpod 61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle - is out now, below and on all platforms.